Thomas Merton and Henri Nouwen: Western Explorers of the Christian East
NHAT HANH: ... If you cut yourself off from something --
a tradition, a community -- the hope of things will be lost.
Right at that moment. So it is not a problem of a word or a term --
it is the problem of life. And that problem of being simultaneously
inside and outside yourself is a very wonderful idea.
Not an idea but a way of life, a way that retain one's self and the link
between one's self and the other part of one's self.
DAN: This was very much a part of the style of Merton --
DAN: This was very much a part of the style of Merton --
the inside/outside. And it had very rich consequences,
I think. For him and for others. He used to say that he would never
become a monk again, but now that he was a monk,
he would be a monk. Absolutely. Yes.
JIM FOREST: A man playing hide and seek with tradition.
NHAT HANH: Anyway, being a monk or not being a monk,
JIM FOREST: A man playing hide and seek with tradition.
NHAT HANH: Anyway, being a monk or not being a monk,
that is not the problem. The problem is the way you are a monk
or the way you are a non-monk. I think if we greet events
in that way, we can master the situation.
In China, they tell the story of a man who lost his horse.
In China, they tell the story of a man who lost his horse.
He was sad and he wept about it. But a few days later the horse returned
with another horse. So the man was now very happy. His loss turns
out to be lucky. But the next day his son tried the new horse
and fell and broke one leg. So now it is not good luck any more,
but bad luck. So he deserts the other horse and takes his son to the hospital
and is content with what he has. So they say, if you greet these events
with a calm mind, then you can make the most of these events
for the sake of your happiness.
That's not me, but the Chinese! (Laughter.)
~ from a slightly edited transcript of a conversation
recorded in Paris in 1973 by Jim Forest between
Thich Nhat Hanh and Daniel Berrigan.
Jim Forest died yesterday
with thanks to louie, louie